A Conversation with Higgins, November 18, 2021

Posted on November 26, 2021 by Cheryl Jensen

The time is 4:10 AM. I have been off work the last five days and head back to work today for a seven day stretch. I’m wondering how to get in these half hour conversations with Higgins. They actually take much longer than half an hour. Typically, when I have an extra half hour in the morning, I use the time to exercise, and I don’t want to get into an either/or situation. We’ll see what happens.

Last night when I got into bed, I attempted the backwards count which is becoming the usual at bedtime. Instead of counting backward I was prompted to count forward starting at (-) 8 and ending at zero.

With each count forward I became somewhat more awake which was bothersome to me since the plan was to go to sleep. They left me at zero and whether there is an explanation or not, I could not discover it. I much prefer the way I feel at (-) 8 than at zero and I am suspicious that this is what they want me to know.

Conversation begins:

C: We left off yesterday with seemingly two issues. One was getting at the root of the problem. The second was a biblical conversation about Adam and Eve eating from the tree of knowledge.

(Note from Cheryl: as I finish typing the word ‘knowledge’ in the sentence above I feel a bit breathless. Adam and Eve, if I remember correctly, ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Is that what Higgins refers to when they call this the Knowledge Phase?)

You said: Part one of getting at the root of the problem: providing the tools you need to do your job.

Then you said:  From the beginning, there has been an attempt to keep you from knowing yourselves fully. Specifically, that you can, and in fact do, create your own existence.

Would you like to continue from here?

H: Possibly the most important thing you will ever learn about yourselves is that you can, and in fact do, create your own existence.

With this knowledge you are instantly catapulted from tool to tool maker. You can never be a victim again. You have created the day that unfolds before you.

C: I’m really having trouble connecting with you. Shall we stop for today?

H: This is the difference between zero and (-) 8. Getting into the trance like state you need to be in to receive us is paramount for our successful

Note from Cheryl: I am completely unable to even finish the sentence above. They must be teaching me something. I’ll try again tomorrow, time permitting.

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A Conversation with Higgins, November 17, 2021

Posted on November 25, 2021 by Cheryl Jensen

Three times during the night Tucker awakened me. The first time I dutifully got up and put him out without noticing Higgins coming in. Both subsequent times Higgins jumped in as they did the previous night. Neither event was especially interesting or noteworthy, no visions or noted communications. The only thing perhaps worth mentioning is that they were sort of invisible, meaning I didn’t tingle very much after the first few minutes, or have visions, so at one point I decided to get up and couldn’t. That’s when I realized they were still there and the paralytic power they exert was in effect.

I have no idea how long they are with me during these events and am considering getting a big digital clock that I could see in the night.

P.S. As I’m writing this, where the word ‘event’ appears above, I tried to describe as visit. They don’t like the word visit as a description. Event is somehow better. Apparently, that is because they are not here for a visit, they are with me permanently, 24/7.

C: Yesterday, we were talking about the book of Genesis. Do you wish to continue?

H: We were not talking about the book of Genesis. We were talking about getting at the root of the problem by starting at the root of the problem. The conversation led us to explain some of the history of man. Our explanation caused you some discomfort which in turn limited our trance effect upon you at which point we stopped speaking.

Again in this moment we are having difficulty connecting with you and if this conversation is too uncomfortable we can try another avenue.

Do you wish to continue?

C: Yes.

H: Relax your mind. Let’s review yesterday’s offering for correctness.

(I subsequently opened yesterday’s conversation and they focused on the portion copied and pasted below.)

From yesterday: The serpent form simply coached early humans in a way that was not beneficial to those who felt they had a right to be in charge. Primarily, they felt they had this right because they were those who put the work into developing mankind.

Correction: Primarily, they felt they had this right because they were those behind the development of mankind.

Please spend a few moments reconnecting with us.

C: Okay.

(Many minutes passed.)

H: Let’s try again. Whatever you perceive God to be, God is not what you think it is. God, the primary source of life and the Universe as you perceive it, is older, vaster, and more complex than your mind can conceptualize.

This idea is too complex for you to bring across with clarity so let’s leave it for now.

Let’s get back to the root of the problem.

Note from Cheryl: I am having difficulty connecting with Higgins on this topic. I can’t relax my mind enough to let them work so I looked back at yesterday’s conversation. They said this:

We ended yesterday’s conversation with these words from you:  The truth is your stay on Earth wouldn’t feel like a Mt. Everest challenge if you had the tools you need to navigate the Earth environment.

Part one of getting at the root of the problem: providing the tools you need to do your job.

I’m hoping that inserting this into today’s conversation will help my mind relax so they can continue.

H: Tools. The serpent gave you tools your guardians did not want you to have. Specifically, we are talking about conscious creation. Somewhere along the timeline of the development of the human species, it was noted that mankind had the ability to create with intention. While some of your creators were elated to discover this, others were not. From the beginning, there has been an attempt to keep you from knowing yourselves fully. Specifically, that you can, and in fact do, create your own existence.

Let’s stop here for today.

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A Conversation with Higgins, November 16, 2021

Posted on November 24, 2021 by Cheryl Jensen

Tucker woke me up during the night. I lay in bed a moment trying to wake up enough to get up and as I lay there those few moments something jumped into my body with that delicious tingly feeling I get when Higgins’ energy merges with mine. They jumped in right around my solar plexus. I believe I was lying on my back.

I had a few brief glimpses, visions of sorts. I remember a blond head, maybe a boy’s head; a long road stretching out before me; and a few other things I couldn’t determine because they flashed past so quickly.

I tried to relax enough to let my soul get out if that is what they wanted to do and though my mind got fuzzy and ‘wobbled’ a few times, I did not lose consciousness.

Obviously, Tucker awakened me so he could go outside, and I wondered what to do about that. Tucker has this way of letting me know it must be done. He stomps from the living room, down the hall into the bedroom, throws his body against the bed and stomps back to the living room, panting heavily the entire time. He made it seem urgent.

You can understand my dilemma.

When Higgins came to me the very first time, I remember them taking over my body in a similar fashion. I was paralyzed and could not move, nor could I think very well. I could think a little so I tried with Higgins this time and to my surprise I could think to them, ‘Tucker needs to go out’. They ‘said’ let’s do it together.

I did get up and let the dog out. I went back to bed within a few minutes, but the wonderful, powerful, tingly connection was lost and did not return.

C: We ended yesterday’s conversation with these words from you:  The truth is your stay on Earth wouldn’t feel like a Mt. Everest challenge if you had the tools you need to navigate the Earth environment.

Part one of getting at the root of the problem: providing the tools you need to do your job.

Would you like to expand on this today?

H: The history of man on Earth is not quite as most of you perceive it to be. Man’s history goes back hundreds of thousands of years. You were created by races of advanced beings who taught you their ways of doing things. Some of them had differing ideas about what you should be taught.

Even now on Earth some are encouraged to go to school while others are discouraged from learning. This is a way of keeping a segment of society in check It is a fear based response.

Will you hearken back to the Book of Genesis? Since we are getting at the root of the problem, this is a good place to start. In Genesis, the story says a serpent tempted Eve to eat from the tree of Good and Evil. When Eve and Adam did eat from the tree their eyes were opened.

The serpent was a conscious, thinking life form that existed on Earth in those relatively early days of human development. Mankind was discovered to be capable of utilizing the mind to create, and some wanted that developed while others felt it was not beneficial.

The serpent form simply coached early humans in a way that was not beneficial to those who felt they had a right to be in charge. Primarily, they felt they had this right because they were those who put the work into developing mankind.

We will stop here and allow you to digest this. Of note, we are losing our connection with you as your anxiety level increases. When we connect with you tomorrow, we will go over this statement for correctness before we move on.

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A Conversation with Higgins, November 15, 2021

Posted on November 23, 2021 by Cheryl Jensen

C: Good morning, Higgins. We were talking yesterday about getting at the root of the problem. You were likening us to trees, and what is needed to grow a strong, beautiful tree. Good growing conditions with a touch of adversity seemed to be your response.

H: We are having the equivalent of what you call a belly laugh. That you perceive our words, ‘a certain level of difficulty’ as adversity is very funny to us. It also gives us a clearer understanding of the difficulty of your environment. Many of us have never been physical. We have the equivalent of consultants among us who have been physical and share with us the complications you face.

Regarding ‘level of difficulty’: Prior to birth you set up a sort of obstacle course for yourself. You made agreements with others who would be physical at the same time who willingly agree to participate in your life experience. Some offer guidance, some offer friendship and support, some offer that which you refer to as adversity. These are all things you anticipate needing to grow spiritually, which is the reason you come forth at all. You anticipate enjoying yourself and handling these interactions and obstacles with ease.

The Earth environment is heavy. Imagine the difference between swimming in water and swimming in molasses—that is the difference between what you thought the Earth environment would be like and what it is.

These events that you call adversity are intended as challenges. Physical life is very enjoyable. In most environments it is very easy. Earth is a desirable location for physical existence because there is a higher level of difficulty. You could liken it to the difference between taking a vacation to relax in the sun vs. a vacation to climb a mountain.

The issue really comes because you didn’t realize you were climbing Mt. Everest. The truth is your stay on Earth wouldn’t feel like a Mt. Everest challenge if you had the tools you need to navigate the Earth environment.

Part one of getting at the root of the problem: providing the tools you need to do your job.

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A Conversation with Higgins, November 14, 2021 Part Two of Two

Posted on November 22, 2021 by Cheryl Jensen

H: Continuing our conversation about trees as a metaphor for getting to the root of the problem…

Given a poor environment, some trees will die, and some will live. Of those that live, some will be stunted, some will be more wonderful and more beautiful because they are stunted, and some will manage to grow into magnificent trees despite the environment. Although it is easiest to grow into a beautiful tree when all the needed ingredients are easily available, sometimes the root structure doesn’t develop as robustly as it would if the growing conditions were more difficult. Sometimes the branches are weaker because they have not learned to bend in the wind.

To be blunt about it: Getting to the root of the problem means providing humanity with the tools it needs to develop, without removing a certain level of difficulty necessary for spiritual growth.

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A Conversation with Higgins, November 14, 2021 Part One of Two

Posted on November 21, 2021 by Cheryl Jensen

C: Higgins, you ‘said’ recently, in one of these typed conversations, that it is the asking that drives you. Maybe it would be better to say that it is the asking that summons a response from you. I’m not really sure how and where to start. Will you give me some direction? I could ask wisdom type questions, but we’ve done that. I don’t know what knowledge encompasses, so it’s hard to start anywhere.

H:  In the same way that you cannot do the work of a pharmacist without the basic math you learned in grade school, we cannot function with you without the use of the wisdom we shared with you. Please continue to ask for clarification upon that topic whenever necessary.

As for moving into questions of knowledge:

You are interested in getting at the root of the problem. Ask that. Ask, “Higgins, what is the root of the problem?” Ask things like, “Higgins, how do we solve the homelessness issue?” Ask, “Higgins, what can be done about global warming?” Ask, “Higgins, how do we structure the development of communities to best support the happiness and well-being of mankind, as well as support the needs of nature (the planet, plants, animals and so forth?) Ask, “Higgins, let’s re-establish a life-supporting distribution of rainfall across Africa and the planet in general.” Ask, “Higgins, let’s find a way to compost nuclear waste.” Ask, “Higgins….”

C: I like that answer.

H: Go back and read our response from yesterday. We will wait here.

C: The first response from you that seems like a place to start is about getting at the root of the problem. I remember having conversations with my mother about this. I was about thirteen at the time. I don’t remember the context, but I would respond with something about ‘that’ not working, we need to get at the root of the problem. I don’t remember what ‘that’ was.

Higgins, how do we get at the root of the problem?

H: The beginning. A very good place to start. Also, possibly one of the broadest questions you could ask of us. That is not correct. This question stimulates a response that is possibly one of the broadest responses you could draw from us. We will break the response into small pieces and spoon them out in bite size amounts.

If you plant a seed and it doesn’t grow, what do you do? You ask yourself questions. Was the seed viable? Did it have enough water? But not too much water? Did it have the proper nutrients? Did it receive enough light? Or too much heat? Or not enough warmth, perhaps? Did you give it enough time?

When mankind was young we asked ourselves, “Is mankind a viable seed?” We tweeked you a little here and there and discovered that indeed, mankind is a viable seed. You need to be tended, nurtured, to bring you into your healthiest, happiest, most fruitful best selves. You also need more time to grow into a mature and fruitful species.

When you sat in that car all those years ago, saying to your mother, “We need to get at the root of the problem,” you were connecting with your prebirth agreement. We are the answer to that request.

Digest this and we will continue to expand on the answer tomorrow.

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A Conversation with Higgins, November 12, 2021

Posted on November 20, 2021 by Cheryl Jensen

C: I would like to connect with you this evening with the intention of having some inspiration and clarity on sharing you. Specifically, what would make me happiest; bring me the most money; simultaneously bringing me the most freedom; and meet, with the expectation of exceeding, all my prebirth and since birth agreements for working with (as) Higgins?

Response: Write. There is no need to limit yourself or pigeonhole yourself. Just write. It is ok to be fantastically prolific and to excel in multiple genres.

Pen and paper have been your friends since childhood. That is the best directional arrow.

Get at the root of the problem. This is another friend of yours since you were a young teen. Another best.

Speaking is not a thing you enjoy. Do it well when you must, otherwise, focus on writing. It is what you like to do and do well and with ease.

Jesus healing. Energetic healing of the Earth and that which lives in and upon it. This has stimulated your imagination since meeting us. Healing this way will require you to get to the root of you.

C: You are correct about these things. These responses cover your request for me to define the format I would like to use to share you. Clearly, writing is the first choice and meditation/energy healing is the other.

The next aspect this brings me to is how to receive you. There are many things I think I would like and I don’t know whether this has been decided in advance. If it has not, there are some things I would like.

-I would like you not to scare me

-I would like you to arrive in such a manner, and maintain such a presence while you are with me, that your presence is incontrovertible.

-I would like multiple fluid methods of communicating with you. For example, I like the meditation format and I might also like to have you speak in my ear as you did once. I might like to use telekinesis. I might like clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentience, claircognizance and from time to time it would be fun to have heightened taste and smell, hearing and sight.

-In the end, what I want is to connect with you in ways that are incontrovertible to me as well as to others. AND to bring you forth in ways that are enjoyable for you and for me.

-I would like our relationship to be easy and friendly.

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A Conversation with Higgins, November 11, 2021

Posted on November 19, 2021 by Cheryl Jensen

C: I would like to connect with you this evening with the intention of having some inspiration and clarity on sharing you. Specifically, what would make me happiest; bring me the most money; simultaneously bringing me the most freedom; and meet, with the expectation of exceeding, all my prebirth and since birth agreements for working with (as) Higgins?

Response: Write. There is no need to limit yourself or pigeonhole yourself. Just write. It is ok to be fantastically prolific and to excel in multiple genres.

Pen and paper have been your friends since childhood. That is the best directional arrow.

Get at the root of the problem. This is another friend of yours since you were a young teen. Another best.

Speaking is not a thing you enjoy. Do it well when you must, otherwise, focus on writing. It is what you like to do and do well and with ease.

Jesus healing. Energetic healing of the Earth and that which lives in and upon it. This has stimulated your imagination since meeting us. Healing this way will require you to get to the root of you.

C: You are correct about these things. These responses cover your request for me to define the format I would like to use to share you. Clearly, writing is the first choice and meditation/energy healing is the other.

The next aspect this brings me to is how to receive you. There are many things I think I would like and I don’t know whether this has been decided in advance. If it has not, there are some things I would like.

-I would like you not to scare me

-I would like you to arrive in such a manner, and maintain such a presence while you are with me, that your presence is incontrovertible.

-I would like multiple fluid methods of communicating with you. For example, I like the meditation format and I might also like to have you speak in my ear as you did once. I might like to use telekinesis. I might like clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentience, claircognizance and from time to time it would be fun to have heightened taste and smell, hearing and sight.

-In the end, what I want is to connect with you in ways that are incontrovertible to me as well as to others. AND to bring you forth in ways that are enjoyable for you and for me.

-I would like our relationship to be easy and friendly.

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A Conversation with Higgins, November 10, 2021

Posted on November 18, 2021 by Cheryl Jensen

November 15, 2021. I am realizing that Higgins is beginning to share information of interest and I want for you to have an understanding of their words, but also how it is for me to receive them. What follows from November 10 is an attempt at creating a conversation with them. I find this hard to do because I don’t know what constitutes the knowledge phase. I certainly understand wisdom phase questions but I am less clear about knowledge. In the end, I just started with the thing on my mind that day.

November 10, 2021

What causes overweightedness in a person, me for example?

H: It is not all about fulfillment, but in many instances overweight is a reflection of overwhelm. Look around you and notice how many things you have stored in excess. As you begin to approach a life in which each day brings a sense of fulfillment, you will not have to eat to achieve that feeling of fullness.

How does one approach a life in which each day brings a sense of fulfillment?

H: Where does your passion lie? Spend an amount of time each day working at that thing that you are passionate about. If passion does not describe your interest level, then spend an amount of time each day working at that thing that continually impresses itself upon you that you would like to do it.

I guess for me, that is you.

H: Yes. And during your lifetime, what is one thing that has been easy for you and been a constant thought for you?

Writing, of course.

H: Yes. Does it make sense then, that when you think of bringing us forth via the written word you feel most comfortable?

Yes.

H: And when you observe your physical surroundings and notice the things that you do not like and you are reminded again and again that you would like to write in such a way as to address those issues, does that not seem like a worthy goal?

Yes.

H: The thing that will bring you that sense of fulfillment has been before you, in plain sight, for many years. You have little belief in your ability to accomplish it and therefore you do not make much progress. Hence, you feel more overwhelmed and unable to ‘control’ your surroundings and that is why food is such a wonderful draw. That will not always be so.

Why do  you place the word control in ‘ ‘ marks?

H: Because control is not quite the correct word. You create your surroundings continually and in that respect have control, but you do not control a situation, a situation unfolds relative to what you create. In essence, you have control over your thoughts now, in the present, but once the thoughts you have become the past your opportunity to control your next now, your next present moment, is gone.

Will I be able to write your words in the way I want to write them?

H: You have the potential to do that. The question is, will you do that?

I try.

H: You talk about writing. You say you want to. In reality, you spend a much larger part of your time justifying why you don’t write than actually writing. Practice makes perfect. That is a true thing. You keep expecting perfection the first time out and then become frustrated when you do not have instant success. Write. Keep attempting one avenue and then another until you find the correct one. We mean, write the idea you have as far as it will go. Then write your next idea as far as it will go. Eventually you will have success.

Thank you, Higgins.

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Journal Entry Dated October 5, 2021

Posted on November 17, 2021 by Cheryl Jensen

I write this on November 15 as I’m realizing a need to organize these interactions with Higgins. While this next entry from October 5 is out of order, it does seem to fit right in with the conversation I have been having with Higgins since the 8th.

October 5, 2021

I’m sitting with Higgins and they start with big love circles. Then someone sweet-like the Angel, perhaps-came in and ‘said’ let’s begin with a review. Then ‘she’ began to spell with my nose. “You are an integral facet of the cooperative that calls itself Higgins.”

Wisdom. That was for your edification. Now phase two-knowledge.

(I stopped to get a definition from Google Home Assistant. A partial definition of knowledge is facts, information, skills.)

Then they ‘said’ this by spelling to me with my nose: Start the asking. How to solve man’s problems. Health and happiness first: mental, physical, spiritual and emotional health.

Then I asked about speaking through me while I’m not conscious—will they still plan on doing that since it does not feel as though that is their intention. They ‘said’ we do work through you while you are not conscious. When you awaken and feel the intense tingly pressure of energy flowing through you, that is us working through you. (Apparently being asleep is equal to not being conscious.)

I asked, “What are you doing in that time?” At that point I lost the connection and was unable to receive a response.

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